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Kustombruce
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of these



My set up is a little bit different to most

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my mates valiant has that type, although the pin is on the column and the latch is on the door.

i would say you could get that kit to work, you just need to get rid of all the original lock/opening mechanism, install the solenoid from the kit, run a cable from the interior door opener.

now the triky part. i am not entirely sure what the inside of the door mechanism looks/works like at the latch end. but i am guessing it is something allong the lines of: a spring is holding the 'bolt' out. you might be able to mod it, so the cables from the solenoid and the interior handle attach to the back of the bolt (to pull it in).

all you would need to do then, is make it so the outside handle is stationary and doesnt flap around so you can use it as a handle to open to door (how novel) or just take them off!

the door will act normally when pushed closed and when opened from the inside, just you will have to use a remote to pop the door open


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it would be interesting to see if you could get the cable manually operating.. only problem is that it involves getting one of those kits and hoping! haha


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depending on where you are, i have a spare solenoid from when i put the central locking kit in my mazda. it is a jaycar one.

all you would need is the cables and ... whatever else you would need Very Happy

then if that works, you would only need to pop down to jaycar and get another couple


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks so much for the offer! but i think we had a same brain.. went to jaycar to buy a solenoid to have a play!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well then, great minds must think alike


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha i think the main thing would be overcoming the problem of how to hook it up so the bolt is attached to the door handle..


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the inside handle or outside?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the inside handle, something like this:



a little crude, but you get the idea.

for the outside, i would be inclined to make it solid, so it didnt move, you would hit the unlock, it would pop the door, and you just pull it open with the static handle


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that sounds like an excellent idea re the outside being solid..

so the cable retainer thing is the cable for the wolf bolt lock?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what you would have is 2 cables, one from the solenoid, and one from the inner handle. both will attached to the back of the bolt (both will open it without effecting the other)

i will draw up a sketch at lunch if you wish


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to see what you're picturing!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this what you were thinking of?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no no... i think it will be a little easier than that






so my thoughts are:

remove original door lock/release mechanism
use original bolt
use/modify the bolt end of the mechanism to do the above
use/modify the inner handle end to pull a cable insted
meet both the cable from the solenoid and from the handle at the original bolt
make the outside door handle static, disconnected from everything

this will look exactly as it does now (from the outside of the door)
work the same except the outside door handle (closes normally, door opens from inside normally

this whole thing is using bicycle like cables. the cable retainer thing holds the outside sheath and is needed for the use of that cable


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow that looks awesome!

is the spring already in place with the door bolt?

i guess you'd have to weld the retainers in right?

looks like a sound approach!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i havnt looked that far into the workings of the door mechanism, but i would guess a spring is already there.

depending on how you feel is the best way, you might be able to rivet, screw or weld it on. i also havnt looked in a door for a while so i wouldn't be able to shed any more light


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a spare door, a solenoid.. now i need a weekend!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont forget the bike cables Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah yes! the old bike cables!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about automatic opening or central locking. From the diagrams it looks like you are using the solinoid to open the door rather than to unlock the door.

Are you designing this from a 4 door lock or a 2 door one. They are completely different.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this would be an auto opening door,

i am not sure if it is a 2 door or a 4 door, as i said, i havnt looked into the inner workings of the door mechanism, nor have i looked into my doors for quite a while. i am just working on what 'should' work


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