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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Newbie help needed :S Reply with quote

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Hey there my name's Sarah and I have myself a beautiful 1952 Morris. I have no knowledge about fixing up cars but there are many things I really want to do to my car myself. One being hooking up my trafficators. I was wondering if someone out there could give me a detailed step by step to how I can hook them up and check them and such. I believe they have only had the wires unhooked. Some detailed help would be amazing.

Cheers muchly

Sarah


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you hook them up to your existing blinker circuit (i gather you have blinkers on your car) your traficator will flap up and down wildly when you put your indicator on. this is most probably the reason they were disconnected.

you can test if they work quite easily by running 12V across it, you can hook it up to your, or a 12V battery, if it flings out at you and the light goes on... it works

there is a way(me thinks) of getting them to stick out while your indicators are on, but it will involve a little more work than just hooking them back up. i havnt tried this, but might attempt it in the future, after my tail light project.

but if you can tap into the indicator circuit before the flasher unit (this will involve having 2 flasher units) for the traficators. it would allow the traficators to work normally, whilst your blinkers are flashing


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

um er where are all the wires i need to do this??


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how standard is your morrie?

mainly around the steering column and dash.

has anyone here got something like this set up?

i am gathering you have the flasher unit before the indicator switch, which would mean that you would have to move it (and get another one) to the other side of the switch so you have a flasher for the right and another flasher unit for the left.

after the switch (before the flasher) you will need to ad a wire, and take it to the traficator.

unfortunatly, i havnt attempted this yet, it is just a theory. also, i cant remember the wiring of the original dash, mine is mixed up with all sorts of modern wiring.

and another thing, from memory, the traficator contacts the body for the positive terminal. this could be an issue (if it is true) and if you have changed the polarity of the car (+ve earth to -ve earth)

hope i havnt confuzzled anyone too much Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this thread for detailed info, but it might be a bit more than you want to begin with.

http://www.morrisdownunder.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4760&highlight=trafficators

Before you go messing about with the wiring, I'd suggest removing the trafficators and bench testing them. It'll be easier to give them a good clean while they're out. It's quite easy to remove them, just remove the trim panel and the two screws that hold the units in place.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well that answers my question, i figured someone would have done it

how does the solenoid like the -ve earth?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they're affected by -ve earth. Mine work fine on positive.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the trafficators wired to a switch and neon under dash.
I use the existing arm and green pilot for my indicators.
I only use the trafficators for display.
If you PM your address I will draw up a circuit diagram. Yellow Sedan


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I bought the car I got told the only reason they had unhooked the trafficators is 'cause people drove too close to the car and side swipe them off. So I hope that mains they are were wired right. Ahhh it's all so confusing lol


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well you could always just hook them up and see if they work right, if they flap up and down, it could get a little annoying, and possibly damaging to the traficators


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Precious,

There is a way of having both indicators and semaphores working from the original indicator switch. You will need 2 flasher cans though.

Basically what you need to do is first wire up the semaphores to the switch as normal. Then with the cable you have going to the left semaphore you attach a 3 pin flasher can. Then connect earth and the other cable goes directly to your indicator lights on the front and back. Then do the same for the right side.

If you only want to use a two terminal flasher can, you just delete the earth.

When you do that you can make it even better by separating the semaphore bulb wiring from the solinoid wiring and you connect the semaphore bulb wiring to you indicator wiring.

What you then have is flashing indicator at the front and back and in the semaphores but the semaphores just stay out when the indicators are on.

Of coarse you will have to put fuses in the circuit to protect it but thats easy.

I can supply you a diagram if you wish, depending on which way you want to go.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just found this flasher unit which has a pin for each side of the car.

the part number is 68261BL, 7 pin, standard for a 626(~1991-97), has pins for:
-ve
+ve
hazard
left (switch)
left (lights)
right (switch)
left (lights)

http://www.narva.com.au/products/browse/heavy-duty-electronic

this would make sure that either side of the car flashes at the same rate (which can be a problem using 2 flasher units, even if they are the same) also, has hazard (also at the same rate) so it might be worth a look


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Sarah,
just wondering where you're located.. if you're really stuck depending on where you are im sure you could get someone to come and help! there are many helpful people on this forum!

I'm in sydney!


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