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Whittler
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: 63 minor ute Reply with quote

My first post, I have a 63 minor ute [saxon green] been under the old farm house out home for the past 23 years all origional,1081 motor can anyone tell me when they started and finished building the 1098 ute in Australia.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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can anyone tell me when they started and finished building the 1098 ute in Australia.

'62 -very early '63



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of pic;s I hope to start a second rebuild around Xmas,hope the pic;s work.I got it from a peanut farmer around Kingoroy 31 years ago and was told it its first owner was the water board in bris.









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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am currently working on a ute restoration . Yellow Ute Blue Ute
Mine is a 1962 model with indicators in the front parkers having twin elements flashing white. Also numbered 1081 model.
Mine is fitted from new with a 948cc engine. Only very late models were 1098 engines, I managed to buy a low comp. LCV engine (60 thou overbore) and am currently running it in my current 4 door.


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Whittler
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies Guys, would this one would be one of the last built in aus,
It is origional and has the 1098 and ribbed case box and from memory the regulator is stamped 63
The origional rims are wider also they are on a sedan in the barn.
She [Bumpy] is what the kids call her use to jump out of third so i was using the gear box out of the sedan.
What is the going price for these as is and or restored.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1098 LCV were rare here in Australia ( not so in New Zealand) the few build here were because of utility buyers, County Councils Water Boards etc, complaining about the engine power and of course better vehicles like Holden. None were fitted with wider wheels as they were in UK and of course UK had 6cwt and 8 cwt versions.
The other interesting thing is late models in UK 1968 on were in Austin or Morris variants. The first of badge engineering. Austins had a different grill, bonnet badge and horn button the engines were black and they had plain hubcaps.
All Light Commercial Vehicles had low comp engines (the difference is the piston dish) and were stamped LC in the engine number.
Price?? $1000-$3000 unrestored Fully restored depending on quality and what the buyers want $6000-$12000
Mine is being rebuilt as an Austin. Yellow Ute Red Ute


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there should be dates on other accessories on the car as follows
generator
starter
voltage regulator
fuse box
wiper motor
light and wiper switch
so if you have found a '63 on the regulator and if you find '63 on some of the other stuff you can say it is roughly a '63.
others on this forum can give you clearer idea on dates from the numbers on the build plate



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Whittler
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info Guys,
Will check some dates and take some pic's next time I am out the farm,
I found my last rego slip for it from 1988 Eng No is [10MAUL48514] looking forward to next year.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went out the farm today the date stamped on the regulator is 8/63
all numbers match and stamped above the battery box is 718 hope this helps, Just curious as to if this is one of the last built in Aus


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try again
By whittler at 2011-09-13[/url]


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's about as late as they come for local LCV's.

Looks like your parts came out of the pars bin as a June LCV I have details on has a later build number than yours 159455.

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Whittler
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My morrie is now home so where should I start, still runs good the only real rust is in the tailgate and minor rust above the rear wheels.



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Red Ute Nice ute Whittler, you are very lucky to have such a rare morry,the production date is also stamped inside your wheels, you will see it when you take the tyres off, also wiper motor, glass etc. regards william ballard. Blue Ute


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:42 am    Post subject: Whittler Reply with quote

Yes nice ute indeed wish mine was inthe same shape all i can say about mine is the colour looks to be the same which helps me abit as there are no ID plates on the car but going on the date on the light switch it maybe june 62 and the number 3024 on the firewall but interesting thing about the wheels though they are about 5" wide and look to be standard not widened and spot welds look to be factory and have the same morris pcd shame the camera has gone kaput i'll see if i can get some pics and maybe someone can pick them out could it be a car from NZ?

Cheers Wally


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Wally

Take a look at the wheels on the raised areas that the hub caps clip onto.

Can you see LP917 stamped onto one of each wheel?

If yes, they are factory 4.5 inch wheels.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:03 am    Post subject: 63 Ute Reply with quote

Hi Don thanks for the reply and my appologies to Whittler for musselling in on his topic ( if your reading this sorry mate ) and back to you Don I had a look at the rims and there isn't a number on them anywhere mate even tried a hubcap and it fits so I dont know I'get some picks but I dont know what good that will do maybe there is something inside when I take the tyre off.
Thanks for reading cheers Wally



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all
4.5 inch were not available here in Aus. and Major rims are only 4.00 inch
All Morris wheels are stamped with size and date of manufacture on the inside of the rims.
So you need to take the tyres off to read it.
My ute had 5 with 1962, however my car had wheels from 1957 to --1962.
Most parts can be replaced from other cars.
My ute is a1962 with factory indicators white front and using extra light at rear it is a 948cc with smoothcase gearbox.
1098 motors were introduced to try and compete against the Holdens offered to councils and goverment depts in early 1963 ( I did some research on this for Minor Monthly some years ago)
On the tailgate I had a bottom panel 100mm high made for mine from Peter Jackson at Glouster ( old- Era -Sevices I think) NSW fitted perfectly and I had a good welder tig weld it on. Red Ute Blue Ute Eye Rolls



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ,mine is a 63 with the rib box 1098 I have had it for 32 years it has the wider rims and I am led to believe they came standard on the 63's it was also a ex bris water board ute
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wally and Whittler

Most factory 4.5 inch rims had LP917 stamped on one of the hubcap lugs, but some of mine don't. As John says, they do all have the specification stamped on the inside of the rims, and so you will only see this with the tyres and tubes taken off.

The 4.5 inch rims are very rare in Oz -- as John says, if they are wider than normally seen on Minors, and they are spot welded (i.e. they seem to be a factory product), it is much more likely that they are the 4 inch rims as fitted to Morris Majors.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: 63 Ute Reply with quote

Thanks guys for all your info the next step is to pull one the tyres off and see what there is , I'll keep you posted
cheers



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